I am new here (had wls 3.5 years ago -- lost 90, regained 10) and have never heard of 'slider foods'. I am trying to figure it out, but seems like everything can be a slider food.

Other than dried chicken (which can't be a slider, can it?), what other foods qualify as NOT being a slider?

Help.
karen4

Solid Protein - is NOT a slider food

examples: fish, shrimp, lamb, beef, chicken, venison, turkey, scallops, lobster, bison, etc


I hope this helps.

Here is the direct quote from Kaye in the FAQ's of the 5DPT:

What are "slider foods"?
In a malabsorptive procedure the pouch is made and the stoma or outlet is attached to the lower part of the middle intestine called the jejunum. The majority of caloric absorption takes place in the jejunum, so depending upon where your surgeon created the outlet the level of absorption can vary. Skilled surgeons will adjust the length of intestine bypassed according to their patient's projected needs based on dieting history and pre-op psychological screening.

Slider foods slide right through the stoma into the jejunum. My first test of the slider foods was graham crackers and coffee for my after work snack. Now imagine, I could eat a stack of graham crackers and wash it right through the pouch with the coffee and never feel any satiation. What resulted was an easily absorbed slurry that my jejunum sucked up like a sponge - it didn't have to do any work to absorb this simple carbohydrate slurry. Of course, weight gain resulted and I had to give up this little indulgence. Another popular slider food is pretzels. I speak with post-ops all the time who are addicted to pretzels - again, this is a simple carb that your jejunum is very happy to receive and convert to fat. Traditionally dieters are encouraged to eat pretzels or popcorn - fat free and fiber, right? But that doesn't work so well for us. Giving our re-routed bodies these simple carbs is dangerous because our bodies have spent years perfect the art of fat storage - slider foods are to the body a great big lottery win.


So, basically, Marla answered your question.

What foods, other than solid proteins, would not be sliders? Are all fruits sliders? Is anything with mayo a slider? I'm guessing anything eaten while drinking a liquid would be a slider. What about rice, potato or pasta?

Thanks,
Karen

Karen--fruits are complex carbohydrates. Mayo doesn't make a food a slider. To me, a slider food is anything I eat that goes quickly through the pouch and doesn't offer nutritional benefit. Hope this helps.



Mari

If it is soft (cottage cheese or sf pudding, etc.), it is a slider. If it is a processed carb (bread, chips, pasta, rice, etc) it is a slider because you can chew it to nothingness and it slides right through. Drinking liquids with meals doesn't make a slider food, but it flushes foods through your system to fast. In my opinion an apple is not a slider, but applesauce is.


Hope this helps.

One thing to take into consideration as well is how you feel, how satiated you are and for how long, after you eat certain foods. Not all foods "feel" the same to everyone. For me I can eat protein added oatmeal and it "stays" with me for a long time. For some it doesn't, they eat it and an hour later could keep eating it or if ate slowly enough you could just keep eating and not ever really get a full feeling. Same with cottage cheese and yogurt, for some reason it stays with me and the protien keeps me full.

Hopes this helps a bit.

hugs!

I remember one of Kaye's suggestions regarding cottege cheese is to add chopped egg to it...makes it more filling/stays longer. I ate it that way on day 3 of the 5dpt.

I eat cottage cheese nearly everyday and I almost always add something to it that helps it to stay w/ me longer. My favorite is peaches, but I'm getting very fond of black bean & corn salsa on it too. Cottage cheese works well for me when meats, and sometimes eggs, don't want to go down & set well.

Karen, you can turn protein into a slider pretty easily. Say...a cup of mayo and a 1/4 can of tuna (ok, excessive example but...) - THAT would be a slider. A Tuna STEAK, however, would most likely not be a slider (unless you're drinkning with it which is a no no).

I think a great example of sliders is Ritz Crackers - take a bite and POOF they disentigrate into nothing. It's really easy to eat a sleeve of those without feeling full. Same thing goes for Pringles. (Obviously these are simple carbs and a no no anyway - which I now realize - kind of a double whammy).

Most simple carbs do this as well - because they become nothing as you eat them which makes them slide right on through - pasta, rice, potato (becomes mashed when you eat it), etc.

Not all people have the same sliders. It's important FOR YOU to determine what foods act as sliders in your pouch. As I mentioned, Ritz & Pringles were really obvious for me. Cottage Cheese and scrambled eggs, while they slide with some people, for ME, they last quite awhile. I can have a scrambled egg and still fee satiated 3 hours later.

wow we learn something everyday here.....

I guess this is not a reply but a question..I eat popcorn all the time..If I chew it well I am fine..I was told that if I can tolerate it it is very good because of the fiber and the calories are low especially if you air pop it..Have I been mislead? kuulani

Kuulani - IMO, I would say yes you were mislead - on a couple of different levels:

1. We're really not supposed to "snack" - in the sense of nibbling/grazing like a "normal" person can. IT'S A REALLY BAD HABIT TO GET INTO. (trust us on this - the VAST majority of us are here due to grazing and snacking). Now, that being said, it's o.k. to have SMALL meals (some people eat as many as 5-6), but those MEALS should consist of 2/3 protein first, followed by 1/3 complex carbs in the form of low GCI veggies & fruits - (which leads to #2).

2. Because our pouch is very small, we need to get the most nutrition out of everything we eat. If you're filling up on empty calories (i.e., popcorn), you're basically just eating to eat, not to nourish your body. We need to learn to eat to nurish (something that we probably have NEVER DONE in our whole lives).

3. If you're HUNGRY, you need to eat - but you need to eat healthy, protein rich foods. A member here only allows herself to "snack" on a protein bar. Her reasoning is that no-one pigs out on a protein bar. If you're truly hungry, it will satisfy your hunger. If you take one bite and aren't satisfied, then it's probably HEAD HUNGER (which is something we don't want to feed). Many people here battle head hunger and have their own little tricks for defeating it (e.g., going for a walk/getting out of the house, eating a frozen crystal lite, drinking water, etc.).

I hope this helps!

An excellent article on popcorn from the library:


http://www.livingafterwls.com/Library/Popcorn.html